Well I started off on the wrong foot , being a fool I followed a tutorial that was just to build a still model and not an animateable one. So none of the limbs were connected. I made them all separate before realising the error of my ways. This means I’ve had to start again and also learn to merge verts again. It is probably a little more annoying retraining than starting from scratch because you know and remember tools but have no idea where they are located. It’s a bit of trial and error at the moment but i'm getting there slowly. The more I practise the more I learn so even if I do end up re creating this fellow about 5 times it will all be worth it.